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Cannot subtract from an empty selection - HowardG - 01-24-2020

When I try to draw a selection box on the image it says "Cannot subtract from an empty selection."
Why is that and how do I make it stop? Huh

I found the box to check in the rectangular select tool box. Problem fixed thank you.


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - denzjos - 01-25-2020

Look her for explanation :

https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-Gimp-won-t-let-me-fuzzy-select-either-of-these-files-why


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - SteveNewcomb - 01-14-2024

This was a show-stopper for me.  The advice above did not help. 
The answer turned out to be a bogus saved tool option of some kind.  Here's what worked:

(1) Edit->Preferences->Tool Options->Reset Saved Tool Options To Default Values
(2) Restart gimp.


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - Ofnuts - 01-14-2024

(01-14-2024, 02:41 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote: This was a show-stopper for me.  The advice above did not help. 
The answer turned out to be a bogus saved tool option of some kind.  Here's what worked:

(1) Edit->Preferences->Tool Options->Reset Saved Tool Options To Default Values
(2) Restart gimp.

Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer. Your action has just reset the Selection tool to Replace mode which is its default.

if you want Gimp to always start with known options: see here.


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - SteveNewcomb - 01-14-2024

(01-14-2024, 05:55 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 02:41 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote: This was a show-stopper for me.  The advice above did not help. 
The answer turned out to be a bogus saved tool option of some kind.  Here's what worked:

(1) Edit->Preferences->Tool Options->Reset Saved Tool Options To Default Values
(2) Restart gimp.

Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer. Your action has just reset the Selection tool to Replace mode which is its default.

if you want Gimp to always start with known options: see here.

Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No. The "real" answer did not work. Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it. It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing. The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - Ofnuts - 01-14-2024

(01-14-2024, 07:06 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 05:55 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 02:41 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote: This was a show-stopper for me.  The advice above did not help. 
The answer turned out to be a bogus saved tool option of some kind.  Here's what worked:

(1) Edit->Preferences->Tool Options->Reset Saved Tool Options To Default Values
(2) Restart gimp.

Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer. Your action has just reset the Selection tool to Replace mode which is its default.

if you want Gimp to always start with known options: see here.

Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No.  The "real" answer did not work.  Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it.  It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing.  The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.

Make a screenshot of your UI, then, showing the Tools options dialog.


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - SteveNewcomb - 01-15-2024

(01-14-2024, 08:30 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 07:06 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 05:55 PM)Ofnuts Wrote: Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer. Your action has just reset the Selection tool to Replace mode which is its default.

if you want Gimp to always start with known options: see here.

Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No.  The "real" answer did not work.  Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it.  It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing.  The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.

Make a screenshot of your UI, then, showing the Tools options dialog.

(01-14-2024, 08:30 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 07:06 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 05:55 PM)Ofnuts Wrote: Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer. Your action has just reset the Selection tool to Replace mode which is its default.

if you want Gimp to always start with known options: see here.

Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No.  The "real" answer did not work.  Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it.  It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing.  The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.

Make a screenshot of your UI, then, showing the Tools options dialog.

Here is the tool options dialog box.  Gimp version 2.10.34


RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - Ofnuts - 01-15-2024

(01-15-2024, 01:09 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 08:30 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 07:06 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No.  The "real" answer did not work.  Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it.  It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing.  The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.

Make a screenshot of your UI, then, showing the Tools options dialog.

(01-14-2024, 08:30 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 07:06 PM)SteveNewcomb Wrote:
Ofnuts Wrote:
Actually Blighty's post #3 is the real answer.

No.  The "real" answer did not work.  Even with the "real" answer I could not escape subtract mode, period, nor could I find a way to escape it.  It was horrible to discard all tool options and restart.

What I'm hoping is that someone might explain how I *should* have escaped from an endless succession of dialog boxes complaining that you can't subtract from nothing.  The method I found is still the only method I know, but I doubt it's the only way.

Make a screenshot of your UI, then, showing the Tools options dialog.

Here is the tool options dialog box.  Gimp version 2.10.34

Thats not the one. Expecting one of these (and some others), depending on actual selection tool used:

[attachment=11029]

So now I'm wondering if you didn't fall victim of a disappearing Tool options dialog, in which case see here to fix that issue first.



G - SteveNewcomb - 01-16-2024

(01-15-2024, 10:13 PM)Ofnuts Wrote:
> So now I'm wondering if you didn't fall victim of a disappearing Tool options dialog, in which case see here to fix that issue first.

Many thanks for the good advice.  I bet you're right!  



RE: Cannot subtract from an empty selection - Krohon - 02-17-2024

(01-24-2020, 09:24 PM)HowardG Wrote: When I try to draw a selection box on the image it says "Cannot subtract from an empty selection."
Why is that and how do I make it stop? Huh

I found the box to check in the rectangular select tool box. Problem fixed thank you.

I had the same problem, fixed it by deleting one layer (it was on the right bar, about the middle of it).