How to transform a layer and a path both together?

[teapot]

Hi,

In gimp 3 (currently 3.0.4) how do I transform a layer and a path both together with a transform tool such as move, rotate, scale etc.

In gimp 2 I can lock them both and then use a transform tool to transform both by the same transformation.

In gimp 3 I can have the path selected in the paths dialog and the layer selected in the layers dialog but as far as I can spot so far a transform tool will transform one or the other not both.

Thanks for any help.

[rich2005]

Transform linked layer and path using Gimp 3.0.x - the short answer is no. I think Ofnuts posted a bug report about it. It is possible in Gimp 3.2 (dev) which has implemented vector layers. A bit like this: https://sendvid.com/l745lfeh

Using Debian 13 ? You are probably stuck on Gimp 3.0.4 for ever. Might have to use a flatpak or an appimage.

[teapot]

Thanks Rich,

That's the first time I've seen a vector layer in action.

I'm wondering if it still allows transforming of both layer and path together in each of these three typical cases:

1. Select a path, fill a layer mask.

2. Make a path over say a photograph to use the path as a guide when drawing.

3. Select a path and fill a layer with a gradient.

Also if modifying the layer e.g.  by applying filters or tools e.g. paint tool maintains the connection between layer and path.

Can't say I'm looking forward to it.

[CmykStudent]

teapot: Hi! I'm one of the people who worked on vector layers for 3.2.


For vector layers, you can apply filters non-destructively and it'll still around as you transform the associated path. If you want to paint on the vector layer or apply filters destructively like 2.10, you'll need to rasterize it first (which removes the connection to the path). You can revert the rasterization if you want, but that'll remove your destructive edits.

I'm working on vector layer masks (see: CmykStudent: "One last "big" feature I'm try…" - Fosstodon), which will be non-destructive and will keep the layer mask attached to the path. For now, those three operations you mentioned are still destructive and so there won't be an association with the path and layer.

[teapot]

(8 hours ago)CmykStudent Wrote: teapot: Hi! I'm one of the people who worked on vector layers for 3.2.


For vector layers, you can apply filters non-destructively and it'll still around as you transform the associated path. If you want to paint on the vector layer or apply filters destructively like 2.10, you'll need to rasterize it first (which removes the connection to the path). You can revert the rasterization if you want, but that'll remove your destructive edits.

I'm working on vector layer masks (see: CmykStudent: "One last "big" feature I'm try…" - Fosstodon), which will be non-destructive and will keep the layer mask attached to the path. For now, those three operations you mentioned are still destructive and so there won't be an association with the path and layer.

Hi CmykStudent,

Thanks for your reply. These new features would be great if they were in addition to existing capabilities, but what you describe sounds like the uses of the path tool will become limited. 

I just did a simple drawing of a flower to try out the gimp 3 path tool. The petals, stem, shading shapes and lines are all defined by paths. Each petal on a separate layer and having it's own paths. Shading done with gradients, Gaussian blur, paintbrush tool, stroking paths etc. Having partially made a petal I wanted to move it keeping both it's layer and associated paths together. That's just a simple case. The result is here:
https://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&...80#p299849

The path tool in 2.10 is very versatile and powerful I would hate to see it curtailed.  It sounds like drawing with the path tool will no longer be practical. In 2.10 I use  locking layers to paths a lot.

PS: The auto connecting open strokes was a pain too but that's another issue I raised here:
https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-Gimp-3...onnections