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GIMP problems (on Linux Mint)
#1
Hello everyone,
I'm new to the forum. 

I'm having some problems with GIMP 3.0.4 (Flatpak) installed today on my PC with Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon.
Until two days ago, I had version 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04. However, since yesterday I have been unable to use it: when creating or opening an image, the various mouse cursors (brush, selection, etc.) remain confined to the left side immediately after the toolbar and there is no way to do anything. After searching in vain, I purged GIMP (sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove gimp) and installed the Flatpak version.

Now, these are the problems I have: 
  1. When I went to Edit>Preferences>Folders>Brushes, I saw that there are 2 folders, but when I try to open them, it tells me that the folder cannot be found. The folders indicated are these:
    /home/franz/.var/app/org.gimp.GIMP/config/GIMP/3.0/brushes
    /app/share/gimp/3.0/brushes
    I went to check and, indeed, under the folder /home/franz/.var/app/org.gimp.GIMP/config/GIMP there was nothing, all the various folders were missing, i.e. there was no /3.0 folder and all the subfolders /brushes /filters /fonts /plug-ins etc.! So all the other various preference folders do NOT actually exist (!?); 
  2. When I try to put a new brush in the brushes folder indicated by the programme (see above), it does not exist when I reopen Gimp. It should be noted that, since the folder did not exist (see point 3 above), I created the /3.0/brushes folder myself, but, as mentioned, even if I put new brushes in it, they are not recognised.
  3. When I right-click on a layer, all the icons are missing from the list that appears. Have they perhaps been removed in the current version?
[Image: 79800e15f5eec91113d85a0e3e268b89d206c2eb.png]

I think that's everything Angel .

Thanks and best regards to all,
Franz
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#2
(Yesterday, 12:29 AM)FranzBias Wrote: Hello everyone,
I'm new to the forum. 

I'm having some problems with GIMP 3.0.4 (Flatpak) installed today on my PC with Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon.
Until two days ago, I had version 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04. However, since yesterday I have been unable to use it: when creating or opening an image, the various mouse cursors (brush, selection, etc.) remain confined to the left side immediately after the toolbar and there is no way to do anything. After searching in vain, I purged GIMP (sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove gimp) and installed the Flatpak version.

Now, these are the problems I have: 
  1. When I went to Edit>Preferences>Folders>Brushes, I saw that there are 2 folders, but when I try to open them, it tells me that the folder cannot be found. The folders indicated are these:
    /home/franz/.var/app/org.gimp.GIMP/config/GIMP/3.0/brushes
    /app/share/gimp/3.0/brushes
    I went to check and, indeed, under the folder /home/franz/.var/app/org.gimp.GIMP/config/GIMP there was nothing, all the various folders were missing, i.e. there was no /3.0 folder and all the subfolders /brushes /filters /fonts /plug-ins etc.! So all the other various preference folders do NOT actually exist (!?); 
  2. When I try to put a new brush in the brushes folder indicated by the programme (see above), it does not exist when I reopen Gimp. It should be noted that, since the folder did not exist (see point 3 above), I created the /3.0/brushes folder myself, but, as mentioned, even if I put new brushes in it, they are not recognised.
  3. When I right-click on a layer, all the icons are missing from the list that appears. Have they perhaps been removed in the current version?
[Image: 79800e15f5eec91113d85a0e3e268b89d206c2eb.png]

I think that's everything Angel .

Thanks and best regards to all,
Franz
There is an issue with the location of the configuration folders in GIMP flatpak. The folders for user scripts/brushes/plug-ins are wrong - putting items in the .var folders shown will have no effect. Instead you need to put them in (in your case) /home/franz/.config/GIMP/3.0/brushes etc.

The icons no longer appear alongside menu entries.
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#3
(Yesterday, 10:40 AM)programmer_ceds Wrote: There is an issue with the location of the configuration folders in GIMP flatpak. The folders for user scripts/brushes/plug-ins are wrong - putting items in the .var folders shown will have no effect. Instead you need to put them in (in your case) /home/franz/.config/GIMP/3.0/brushes etc.

The icons no longer appear alongside menu entries.

Hi programmer_ceds.

Basically where they were before, but in folder 3.0 instead of 2.10... I didn't think to look in those folders, I trusted what was written in the preferences.
Thank you very much for your reply.
All the best,
Franz
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#4
(Yesterday, 03:41 PM)FranzBias Wrote:
(Yesterday, 10:40 AM)programmer_ceds Wrote: There is an issue with the location of the configuration folders in GIMP flatpak. The folders for user scripts/brushes/plug-ins are wrong - putting items in the .var folders shown will have no effect. Instead you need to put them in (in your case) /home/franz/.config/GIMP/3.0/brushes etc.

The icons no longer appear alongside menu entries.

Hi programmer_ceds.

Basically where they were before, but in folder 3.0 instead of 2.10... I didn't think to look in those folders, I trusted what was written in the preferences.
Thank you very much for your reply.
All the best,
Franz

It is bad that the Preferences/Folders dialog gives the wrong information and something that should be fixed if possible.

In Preferences/Folders if you select the .var entry and then click the icon immediately to the right of the box that shows the selected folder ("Open a file selector to browse your files") it actually takes you to the .config folder - just to confuse people further  Angry
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#5
(Yesterday, 04:15 PM)programmer_ceds Wrote: It is bad that the Preferences/Folders dialog gives the wrong information and something that should be fixed if possible.

In Preferences/Folders if you select the .var entry and then click the icon immediately to the right of the box that shows the selected folder ("Open a file selector to browse your files") it actually takes you to the .config folder - just to confuse people further  Angry


Actually, in my case, it tries to open the folder in .var but cannot find it.


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#6
Flatpak (and snap) use virtual filesystems and give the application a very distorted view of the actual file system.

My personal recommendation would be to add a third folder in your regular directories (/home/franz/gimp/brushes) and use that. And then you discover that you can add the very same folder in both Gimp versions and so share brushes, patterns, palettes, etc... across your Gimp versions.

Also, if, in recent Linuxen, using flatpak or appimage maintains Python support in Gimp 2.10, with Gimp 3 some sanity has been restored and Gimp can use the system's Python3 installation and flatpaks/snap/appimages are no longer necessary. There are .deb for Gimp3 out there and they give you a more integrated Gimp experience.
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#7
(Yesterday, 04:39 PM)FranzBias Wrote:
(Yesterday, 04:15 PM)programmer_ceds Wrote: It is bad that the Preferences/Folders dialog gives the wrong information and something that should be fixed if possible.

In Preferences/Folders if you select the .var entry and then click the icon immediately to the right of the box that shows the selected folder ("Open a file selector to browse your files") it actually takes you to the .config folder - just to confuse people further  Angry


Actually, in my case, it tries to open the folder in .var but cannot find it.

That looks like the message that results from clicking the button at the very right-hand side - the one that looks like a filing cabinet. The button between that one and the box containing the file name (looks like a sheet of paper coming out of a file) should show you the files that are in the .config folder although (misleadingly) it claims that they are in the .var folder!
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