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Where is the Heal selection/transparency tool?
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I am a new GIMP user and have a heal tool question as well. Saw a you tube video on using Wavelet Decompose and scales to remove "speckling" (white spots) from an old black and white photo. The process required me to use "select by color" to identify the white speckles (which I did). Then run Filters / Enhance / Heal Selection to remove the identified speckles from each scale. My problem is I don't have Heal Selection under Filters / Enhance. Any help or direction is appreciated!
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(03-04-2019, 12:50 AM)Leader344 Wrote: I am a new GIMP user and have a heal tool question as well. Saw a you tube video on using Wavelet Decompose and scales to remove "speckling" (white spots) from an old black and white photo. The process required me to use "select by color" to identify the white speckles (which I did). Then run Filters / Enhance / Heal Selection to remove the identified speckles from each scale. My problem is I don't have Heal Selection under Filters / Enhance. Any help or direction is appreciated!

First thing to note is that the Heal Tool and Heal Selection are 2 completely different tools.

Heal Selection is part of a plug-in called Resynthesizer. It is available from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gwc928wmwt..._32_64.zip

Ask again if you do not know how to install plugins.
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(03-04-2019, 06:49 AM)Blighty Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 12:50 AM)Leader344 Wrote: I am a new GIMP user and have a heal tool question as well. Saw a you tube video on using Wavelet Decompose and scales to remove "speckling" (white spots) from an old black and white photo. The process required me to use "select by color" to identify the white speckles (which I did). Then run Filters / Enhance / Heal Selection to remove the identified speckles from each scale. My problem is I don't have Heal Selection under Filters / Enhance. Any help or direction is appreciated!

First thing to note is that the Heal Tool and Heal Selection are 2 completely different tools.

Heal Selection is part of a plug-in called Resynthesizer. It is available from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gwc928wmwt..._32_64.zip

Ask again if you do not know how to install plugins.

Thanks for the clarification! Retired, choosing a few thing to keep me mentally sharp. Recently added GIMP 2.10.8. So far I have only downloaded one plugin, Wavelet Decompose (still learning it). Not sure how I got it done but I did. So any advise for a newbie is appreciated. How and where to get them appear to be a challenge. Resynthesizer is definitely one I read I need. Also GMIC?
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(03-07-2019, 12:10 AM)Leader344 Wrote: Thanks for the clarification! Retired, choosing a few thing to keep me mentally sharp. Recently added GIMP 2.10.8. So far I have only downloaded one plugin, Wavelet Decompose (still learning it). Not sure how I got it done but I did. So any advise for a newbie is appreciated. How and where to get them appear to be a challenge. Resynthesizer is definitely one I read I need. Also GMIC?

Assuming you are using Windows.

Any extra Gimp resources - scripts, plugins, fonts, brushes... - go in the appropriate folder in your Gimp profile.
C:\Users\"yourname"\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\....

(edit: This is a little out of date now but worth a read https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/GIMPProfile/ )

This is a Windows hidden folder, to un-hide it see: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help...windows-10

Most scripts (something.scm) and plugins (something.py, something.exe, something.dll) are installed manually. Copy/move the file across to the appropriate folder.

Not many plugins come with an installer, gmic_gimp http://www.gmic.eu is an exception, get the installer, run it and it installs all its files in the correct place. Lots of filters in there, 515 at the moment.

For that old resynthesizer plugin, two files resynthesizer.exe, resynthesizer-gui.exe, + any of the something.py files go in C:\Users\"yourname"\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\plug-ins

Resynthesizer is an old but powerful plug-in that will make a pattern 'tile-able' but other plug-ins like heal-selection.py can use it.

Not able to find a script / plugin? In the Help -> Plug-in Browser type part of the name in the search box and usually you can find the location in the menu structure. So while heal-selection is in Filters -> Enhance Resynthesizer is in Filters -> Map

Confusing? You soon get the hang of things.
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#5
rich2005

Thanks the the information. Gonna give it a try. Definitely understand since GIMP is free, educational information (tutorial vedios and printed) is either hit and miss or focused on things way beyond what folks like me need. Having GIMP 2.10.8, I find many tutorials etc. that appear to be good doesn't apply to my version when I try to execute them. I'm looking to use GIMP as a hobby, repairing old photos. At 66, I have many old photos gotten from family that are old black and white and color that are faded, with white specks all over them that I'd like to revive. If you could direct me to one or two filters (or tutorials) to clean these specks and sharpen is appreciated. I've used Wavelet Decompose a few times, able to see how different things are on different layers, but unsuccessful in making image differences from the layers. Still looking for a great tutorial. Thanks again!
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#6
Here's a briefing on enhancing photos using GIMP. Though it applies to colored photographs.Should fairly apply to black and white photos with exceptions that may not be a majority.

https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-imaging-photos.html

Here's a tutorial on converting colored images into Black and White.May be reverse-engineer the process and you might get the desired result.

https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Digital_B...onversion/

Here's a photoshop tutorial on enhancing black and white photos. As far as i have used GIMP, I had most of options of Photoshop in GIMP(under a different menu,but mostly with the same keywords).

http://www.hitcounterexpert.com/photosho...te-photos/

Some more info since you are new to photo editing softwares:

1)You can try as many things as available without worrying about the changes being permanent after every trial. If an effect you have tried didn't give the desired result, press ctrl key + Z if on windows OS(Should work in most cases) or simply close the file as you would with any other file without saving the file and none of the effects will be added to the original file or the .xcf file you were using. So you can try as many times as you want. So some experience in "Trial and Error" methodology can help.

2)Any effect you try on the photo,the result will be available as a preview. Since you are working on one photo at a time and not based on layers within each file, You would be able to see the results of the effect through the preview. If its not the desired result, Undo the changes as suggested in step 1) and try a different effect.
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#7
@Leader344
The best way is experiment. There is no tutorial that reflects the actual state of the images you want to enhance, but there will be a procedure that suits you best.

So this is what I might do, starting with the subject of the thread, heal selection. No way that I apply it blemish-by-blemish, life is too short. Use a quick mask to create a selection. But consider the orientations. Some are best healed all-round, some from sides, some from above & below. You will have to select / apply as required. https://i.imgur.com/c7BJjM3.jpg

Usually no way to avoid using the clone tool somewhere, use a fuzzy brush, but once the blemishes are fixed a quick way to improve over all is duplicate layer, put duplicate into overlay mode. https://i.imgur.com/zOCjdIs.jpg

Then a new from visible and using the gmic plugin http://www.gmic.eu curves filter. More choices than the Gimp curves, this using HSV for a tweak. https://i.imgur.com/JNFB69L.jpg

You could then go further with sharpening etc. Took longer to write this than the editing. However it will be your masterpiece, take your time.

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Quote:..Having GIMP 2.10.8, I find many tutorials etc. that appear to be good doesn't apply to my version when I try to execute them...

Gimp 2.8 came out in 2012, Gimp 2.10 just a year ago, so there are lots of tutorials from Gimp 2.8 Have a look at them, although the interface might vary a little, the underlying principles are the same. Try and identify the various docks and dialogues. The tools and tool options are more or less the same, layers, brushes etc only swapped vertically. You have to "read between the lines".
Also, there will always be some clever people who try and make Gimp look like PhotoShop, never a good idea in my opinion, designed to confuse. Similarly avoid those PS tutorials. The end result will be similar but getting there is a whole different procedure.
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